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and that's what president obama ran on. we had a huge election for the senate, where he democrats whers picked up seat. for the presidency, for a race that was supposed to be president romney's, according to his people, was president obama's mainly because president obama stood up for the middle class and said, when it comes to taxes, we all have to pay our fair share; no more, no less. so when you tell your friends that the president wants to give you your tax cut, you should tell them also it's being held up by the republicans in congress who are sitting on a bill that passed july 25, 2012. 98% of the american people will get their tax break continued, and only income over $250,000 will be taxed at the same rates when bill clinton was president. let's take a look back at those days. were they harsh for people? no. we had more millionaires created, i remember, in those days than we had in generations. you know why? because when the middle class is strong and he invested in the middle class, he invested in our people, they
and that's what president obama ran on. we had a huge election for the senate, where he democrats whers picked up seat. for the presidency, for a race that was supposed to be president romney's, according to his people, was president obama's mainly because president obama stood up for the middle class and said, when it comes to taxes, we all have to pay our fair share; no more, no less. so when you tell your friends that the president wants to give you your tax cut, you should tell them also...
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stole the 2012 election from president obama. the number is down only three points from the 2008 election. the problem is, folks, a.c.o.r.n., they shut their doors back in 2010. these poll numbers are absolutely shocking. but if you look at where republicans get their news, some sense can be made of all of this. in 2012, foxnews.com and its fringe sister site, fox nation, did five stories related to a.c.o.r.n. the fox news effect is nothing new, as long as fox news and right-wing talkers push information, the problem will continue. meanwhile, these poll numbers also show republicans are can't handle losing the election. 25% of republican voters say that they want to succeed from the union. and 19%, well, they're not really sure yet. it's safe to say that republicans are no longer the party of patriotism. a quarter of their members want nothing to do with this country. these misinformed republicans love to talk about our founding fathers. don't they always quote our founding fathers, those tea partyers out there? tonight i've pick
stole the 2012 election from president obama. the number is down only three points from the 2008 election. the problem is, folks, a.c.o.r.n., they shut their doors back in 2010. these poll numbers are absolutely shocking. but if you look at where republicans get their news, some sense can be made of all of this. in 2012, foxnews.com and its fringe sister site, fox nation, did five stories related to a.c.o.r.n. the fox news effect is nothing new, as long as fox news and right-wing talkers push...
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and i saw president obama on tv about a month or so before election and he wasn't concerned about the deficit. but i have a question that i have been wondering. does all these people on medicaid that obama put on medicaid, does that come out of a medicare program? >> guest: yes, it does. it certainly does. and one of the reasons actually i like the proposal on medicaid is essentially to block the grant program back to the states this is not a cut in spending but we limit the future increases to population growth and inflation may be in plus one, something like that. we found the state's do exactly what we did with welfare in the 1990's which most people on both sides argue work well. the great thing about the proposal is that it is some new stuff. a lot of it has worked in other contexts. what is new is he had the political courage and skill to put it together in a package that you can pass out. >> host: the gop plan is to create a fiscal crisis so it can privatize social six devotee and medicare. >> guest: absolutely not true. what's creating the fiscal crisis is and dealing with med
and i saw president obama on tv about a month or so before election and he wasn't concerned about the deficit. but i have a question that i have been wondering. does all these people on medicaid that obama put on medicaid, does that come out of a medicare program? >> guest: yes, it does. it certainly does. and one of the reasons actually i like the proposal on medicaid is essentially to block the grant program back to the states this is not a cut in spending but we limit the future...
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president obama? republicans might let him do it, even though every republican in congress has signed the no taxes pledge, created by the president of americans for tax reform, grover norquist. the two most terrifying words a republican can hear, other than buenos dias. >> seems like republicans are having an easier time writing off norquist than appealing to latinos. >>> which former gop candidate got a nod on the cbs show "ncis: los angeles" last night? one of the detectives on last night's episode gave us a throwback to a certain candidate's tax plan. >> huh? look at all those center hits. nine, nine, nine. should change my name to herman cain. >> yeah? i think it's more like peewee herman. read them and weep. >> you know what? these targets are culturally biased. >> against what, surfers? >> 9-9-9 is how we remember herman cain. i guess it's better than 6-6-6. >>> are we seeing the start of a republican retreat on the fiscal cliff? you're watching "hardball," a place for politics. >>> back to "har
president obama? republicans might let him do it, even though every republican in congress has signed the no taxes pledge, created by the president of americans for tax reform, grover norquist. the two most terrifying words a republican can hear, other than buenos dias. >> seems like republicans are having an easier time writing off norquist than appealing to latinos. >>> which former gop candidate got a nod on the cbs show "ncis: los angeles" last night? one of the...
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. >> now, richard, president obama told "rolling stone" magazine that his past election would break the gop fever. he told the magazine, quote, my hope is if the american people send a message to republicans and they suffer some losses in this election, that there's going to be some self-reflection going on. that it might break the fever. they might say to themselves, you know what? we've lost our way here. we need to refocus on trying to get things done for the american people. richard, they lost some seats. they lost the election. is the fever about to break? >> it's interesting he used the language because that was the same language that vice president biden used when he was being interviewed by chris matthews on "hardball." the fever breaking is clearly a term of art in terms of what the white house seeins as the probl. as krystal's point, the politics has changed in some way. we don't have the deal set yet but when was the last time a democratic candidate had the guts to campaign saying that taxes would rise. republicans have had this game of fear playing out for many cycles now, t
. >> now, richard, president obama told "rolling stone" magazine that his past election would break the gop fever. he told the magazine, quote, my hope is if the american people send a message to republicans and they suffer some losses in this election, that there's going to be some self-reflection going on. that it might break the fever. they might say to themselves, you know what? we've lost our way here. we need to refocus on trying to get things done for the american people....
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if there was one thing clear in this last election is that president obama said, if you re-elect me, i'm going to be in favor of raising the rates and raising taxes on the super wealthy in our country. and guess what, al, he won. and he won big. that's where the american people are. >> one of the things that is also a major issue is they are attacking a stimulus portion of the president's offer because for $95 a billion to extend payroll tax cut, $50 billion to fund infrastructure projects like roads and bridges. so they are not only playing games on how they are going to deal with the question of tax cuts across the board but they are really attacking the stimulus part of the president's offer. >> well, you and i both know the best way to grow is from the middle out,ç not from the top down. the best way to get this economy going is to get some jobs out there for some people and that's in infrastructure, education, job restraining. we've got to get people back to work. then, when they've got the money, they can go out and start buying things and the business community will respond
if there was one thing clear in this last election is that president obama said, if you re-elect me, i'm going to be in favor of raising the rates and raising taxes on the super wealthy in our country. and guess what, al, he won. and he won big. that's where the american people are. >> one of the things that is also a major issue is they are attacking a stimulus portion of the president's offer because for $95 a billion to extend payroll tax cut, $50 billion to fund infrastructure...
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in 2008, president elect obama invited john mccain to his chicago offices and mccain got a meeting. and as for mitt romney, he got a meal. the president treated mr. romney to a lunch of
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. >> president bill clinton got president obama re-elected, perhaps he can help him talk to the other side, like speaker gingrich. maybe if the president won't call speaker boehner, maybe he'll call bill clinton. governor, as always, thank you. >> thank you, good night. >> senator jeff sessions demanding the fiscal cliff talks be taken out of the shadows. why does he accuse the president of secret negotiations? that's next. many small business owners saying they can't pay for obamacare. but that's not the only thing about the health care law that has them worried. a las vegas business owner tells you about another big problem, one you probably haven't heard about before that may be your problem. plus, he's back. who could forget the drunk guy singing bohemian rhapsody in a police car. wait until you see what he is up to now. you don't want to miss this. it istory of moms, has ever turned down a handmade ornament. that's why we sat up santa's wonderland at bass pro shops. kids can get their free picture with santa, and this week make a... all for free. >> greta: what is the big secret
. >> president bill clinton got president obama re-elected, perhaps he can help him talk to the other side, like speaker gingrich. maybe if the president won't call speaker boehner, maybe he'll call bill clinton. governor, as always, thank you. >> thank you, good night. >> senator jeff sessions demanding the fiscal cliff talks be taken out of the shadows. why does he accuse the president of secret negotiations? that's next. many small business owners saying they can't pay for...
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the reason is that we had an election. obama wanted to wash his hands now. je to do something or we will end up with a nasty regime in syria. >> bret: that is it for the panel but stay tuned for more analysis on the nuclear option. >> bret: some some of that has to be harry reid stopping by to block dinners of the mashed potatoes. mitch mcconnell is warning it could get worse. >> in the name of efficiency they would prevent the very possibility of compromise and threaten to make the disputes of the past few years look like mere pillow fights. >> he is
the reason is that we had an election. obama wanted to wash his hands now. je to do something or we will end up with a nasty regime in syria. >> bret: that is it for the panel but stay tuned for more analysis on the nuclear option. >> bret: some some of that has to be harry reid stopping by to block dinners of the mashed potatoes. mitch mcconnell is warning it could get worse. >> in the name of efficiency they would prevent the very possibility of compromise and threaten to...
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this is why president obama is playing to his strengths. the president has never had a problem rallying the american people to his side. >> understand this was a central question in the election. maybe thee central question in the election. you remember. we talked about this a lot. >> republicans are furious because they can't control this conversation. americans know where they stand on tax fairness and republicans are on the losing end. it's been a rough week. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question. who has the upper hand in the fiscal cliff negotiations at this point? text "a" for president obama, text "b" for the republicans to 622639. always go to our blog at ed.msn ed.msnbc.com and leave a comment. we encourage you to do that. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. i'm joined tonight by sam stein, political reporter for "the huffington post." don't you dare give me a hard time about the packers. let's get on to the important stuff. who is winning the conversation with the american people
this is why president obama is playing to his strengths. the president has never had a problem rallying the american people to his side. >> understand this was a central question in the election. maybe thee central question in the election. you remember. we talked about this a lot. >> republicans are furious because they can't control this conversation. americans know where they stand on tax fairness and republicans are on the losing end. it's been a rough week. get your cell phones...
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speaker, before the election, you were asked whether if obama won taxes would have to go up. and you've made it sound like you would oppose that. now you're acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election, i came here and made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> so my question is, what message do you have for people who look at the negotiating position and see that it's -- or believe that it's inevitable that you'll have to accept some compromise on tax rates? >> revenue is on the table, but revenue is only on the table if there were serious spending cuts as part of this agreement. it has to be part of the agreement. we have a debt crisis. we're spending too much. and while we're willing to put revenue on the table, we have to recognize it's the spending that's out of control. >> mr. speak, roughly what size spending cuts do you think it would take to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff and do you think that at least the promise of spending cuts has to be included in this level of dea
speaker, before the election, you were asked whether if obama won taxes would have to go up. and you've made it sound like you would oppose that. now you're acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election, i came here and made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> so my question is, what message do you have for people who look at the negotiating position and see that it's -- or believe that...
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out saying oh, barack obama, he bought votes, i would have won the election if he wouldn't have bought the votes. that's the logo of a guy who just makes excuses. >> so between the change of heart and all the interviews he's doing and the aspiring acting career, some people are saying that it's possible, just possible, that eric is doing all of this just to get attention. >> they couldn't be more correct. of course. who gets a tattoo on their face and isn't looking for attention? >> very thought provoking although perhaps not universally true. like maybe if somebody got a tattoo on their face that said i'm shy. in any event, if it was attention he was looking for, he definitely got it although the romney tattoo will soon fade into nothing but a cheeky memory, eric's place on the "ridiculist," that i promise you, is permanent. that does it for us. see you again one hour from now. erin burnett's "outfront" starts now. >>> 28 days away, what does it take for a deal? and the use of chemical weapons will bring an immediate reaction from the community. our panel, we'll ask them if the united
out saying oh, barack obama, he bought votes, i would have won the election if he wouldn't have bought the votes. that's the logo of a guy who just makes excuses. >> so between the change of heart and all the interviews he's doing and the aspiring acting career, some people are saying that it's possible, just possible, that eric is doing all of this just to get attention. >> they couldn't be more correct. of course. who gets a tattoo on their face and isn't looking for attention?...
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we've just had an election. the people had a choice between mitt romney and president obama who said let's have a balanced plan, and let's give tax cuts to the middle class. what is he talking about? this is about tax cuts. the president is saying, renew the payroll tax cut. give tax cuts to every dollar earned up to $250,000. i don't know what they're thinking, thomas. but obviously, they are putting it all on the line for the koch brothers and sheldon adelson who earn billions of dollars. they're selfish. and there's a group called patriotic millionaires who are saying please, please, tax us fairly. and here's the point. the president is saying to the millionaires and billionaires, we're just taking you back to the tax rates that you had when bill clinton was president. and i would like to remind everybody, we had the greatest prosperity then when everyone paid their fair share. 23 million new jobs. and why is it? because the middle class had the money to spend out there, to stimulate this economy. it's a cons
we've just had an election. the people had a choice between mitt romney and president obama who said let's have a balanced plan, and let's give tax cuts to the middle class. what is he talking about? this is about tax cuts. the president is saying, renew the payroll tax cut. give tax cuts to every dollar earned up to $250,000. i don't know what they're thinking, thomas. but obviously, they are putting it all on the line for the koch brothers and sheldon adelson who earn billions of dollars....
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>> well, on the very day that they elected obama by a few percentage points, the exit polls also asked, would you like to raise taxes to reduce the deficit, 63% said no. 86% of the ads run for obama were personal attacks on romney. he won a stunning mandate to not be romney. he did not run on the basis he was going to do massive new spending and the kind of tax increases, $1.6 trillion that he's now talking about. and at the same time that obama was elected president, the republican house, which had twice voted for a real budget -- remember, the president's budget he claims he has a mandate for was put up before the house and the democrats all voted against it. in the senate, the democrats didn't want to have anything to do with it. it's a little hard to argue, he had a mandate for something the rest of his party ran away from. >> well -- >> did not run ads on those issues. >> and, of course, it was a bit more complicated than that. but to your point about the exit polls, it's true, most people said that they didn't want tax increases to solve the deficit. what they said -- the majorit
>> well, on the very day that they elected obama by a few percentage points, the exit polls also asked, would you like to raise taxes to reduce the deficit, 63% said no. 86% of the ads run for obama were personal attacks on romney. he won a stunning mandate to not be romney. he did not run on the basis he was going to do massive new spending and the kind of tax increases, $1.6 trillion that he's now talking about. and at the same time that obama was elected president, the republican...
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rand paul said "only hours after re-election barack obama immediately made a move for gun control on november 7th his administration gleefully voted at the u.n. for a renewed effort to pass the small arms treaty. i don't know about you, but watching anti-american globalists plot against our constitution makes me sick." is this an indication, chris, although we don't think this is an issue that decides presidential elections it can raise money and maybe play a role in congressional elections. >> the gun issue in particular in rural parts of the country is a very emotional and very powerful issue. democrats and republicans i think realize that. the argument about somehow global treaties that has to do with the spread of arms that has to do with conflicts overseas is going to threaten second amendment rights of americans in the united states is border line laughable. at the end of the day i have not seen any democrat or any republican for that matter i've not seen the president taking away second amendment rights or making gun control an issue in the last four plus years so i'm not sure
rand paul said "only hours after re-election barack obama immediately made a move for gun control on november 7th his administration gleefully voted at the u.n. for a renewed effort to pass the small arms treaty. i don't know about you, but watching anti-american globalists plot against our constitution makes me sick." is this an indication, chris, although we don't think this is an issue that decides presidential elections it can raise money and maybe play a role in congressional...
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representative mike simpson of idaho told bloomberg news "it's pretty obvious that obama won the election and he promised he was going to raise tax on the wealthiest and he said while it may be unpalatable, there is enough sane people left to get it done." well, maybe there is hope afterall. joining me now from washington is republican strategist and author of the book "blackwards," ron christie. thank you so much for joining us inside "the war room" again. >> governor, it is nice to see you again. >> jennifer: all right. so do you think republicans have recovered from losing the election? >> well, i think we have. i think there's no question that although president obama got less of the popular vote than he did the last time around, his electoral college numbers went up. he won. but the other thing that i would say to you governor, is senate republicans, the american people voted for the status quo. they kept the republicans running the majority in the house of representatives to keep a check on the executive branch and so while we did take a shellacking in the presidential election, we
representative mike simpson of idaho told bloomberg news "it's pretty obvious that obama won the election and he promised he was going to raise tax on the wealthiest and he said while it may be unpalatable, there is enough sane people left to get it done." well, maybe there is hope afterall. joining me now from washington is republican strategist and author of the book "blackwards," ron christie. thank you so much for joining us inside "the war room" again....
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voting again for president obama and electing a democratic senator. virginia is increasingly a moderate state. we're not in texas, my home state. if kucuccinelli were running in texas, arizona, even in georgia, these types of politics wouldn't just hurt him, they'd help him, but he's not. he's running in virginia, the land of whole food moms and dads. but at a broader level i find the cuccinelli race interesting because i think it might be a precursor to what we may see in the midterms and perhaps in the 2016 presidential election. we already hear some rumblings about perry getting back into the race, santorum -- >> oh, lord help us, no. please. >> i swear. >> please, no, not the return of rick perry. you cannot be serious. >> i swear to you. >> oh, lord. okay, jimmy, mr. cuccinelli, he sued over obama care, lost. sued the epa, lost. is there anything more dangerous to a political party than a leader who consistently picks fight he loses? >> how many times do you have to lose to be kaumd a loser. >> right. >> let's be honest about this, you have -- an
voting again for president obama and electing a democratic senator. virginia is increasingly a moderate state. we're not in texas, my home state. if kucuccinelli were running in texas, arizona, even in georgia, these types of politics wouldn't just hurt him, they'd help him, but he's not. he's running in virginia, the land of whole food moms and dads. but at a broader level i find the cuccinelli race interesting because i think it might be a precursor to what we may see in the midterms and...
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federal finance reports show president obama's re-election team raced just north of $1.1 billion while team romney raised just under $1.1 billion. that story is the topic of our gut check on this friday. what does your gut tell you? is a $2 billion election too expensive? go to facebook.com/newsnation to vote. that will do it for this friday edition of "news nation." i'm craig melvin. "the cycle" is up next. oh...there you go. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! i'm gonna stand up to her! no you're not. i know. you know ronny folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than a witch in a broom factory. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. let's see if we can get the same item at walmart for less? okay. fijit friends. fifteen bucks on rollback. wow! that's a savings of over 29 bucks! twenty-nine bucks!!?? and they're powered by friendship. see for yourse
federal finance reports show president obama's re-election team raced just north of $1.1 billion while team romney raised just under $1.1 billion. that story is the topic of our gut check on this friday. what does your gut tell you? is a $2 billion election too expensive? go to facebook.com/newsnation to vote. that will do it for this friday edition of "news nation." i'm craig melvin. "the cycle" is up next. oh...there you go. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! i'm gonna stand up to...
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know firsthand that every election carries a lot of messages, but president obama himself has concluded that the one just past was sort of an impetus to get the middle class back together financially and otherwise. and as governor of michigan, the best thing that we could do for this nation right now as you know former governor of michigan is to get balance back in the work force. and i think there were very strong messages that the nation, as evidenced by votes in your old home state of michigan, ohio pennsylvania, really throughout the industrial midwest, was saying to the congress specifically, we need a manufacturing policy of our own. we need to have as many as two and a half times more women and men in the manufacturing sector, governor than we have today. and they have to be paid fairly, they have to have fair trade policies that sustain their employment. we just have to get this economy as you said repeatedly, back in balance and that's probably the best place to start. >> jennifer: totally agree. totally agree. so we are on the same page. so let's get to the specifics. what wou
know firsthand that every election carries a lot of messages, but president obama himself has concluded that the one just past was sort of an impetus to get the middle class back together financially and otherwise. and as governor of michigan, the best thing that we could do for this nation right now as you know former governor of michigan is to get balance back in the work force. and i think there were very strong messages that the nation, as evidenced by votes in your old home state of...
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develop rent vent -- basketball as irrelevant in our lives please. >> president clinton go president obama reelected perhaps he can help him learn how to talk to the other side like he did with speaker gingrich and get something done. maybe in the president won't call speaker boehner, perhaps he will call bill clinton. i'm take the last word on that. governor as always, thank you. >> thank you. >> senator sessions demanding the fiscal cliff talks be taken out of shadows. why does he accuse the president of holding secret negotiations. he's here next. >> many small business owners saying they can't pay for obamacare. that is not the only thing about the health care law that has them worry. a las vegas business owner here to tell you about another problem. it may turn out to be your problem. >> plus, he's back! who could forget the drunk guy singing bohemian rhapsody in a police car. you don't want to miss this. ♪ ♪ this holiday, share everything. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. sharable data across 10 devices with unlimited ta
develop rent vent -- basketball as irrelevant in our lives please. >> president clinton go president obama reelected perhaps he can help him learn how to talk to the other side like he did with speaker gingrich and get something done. maybe in the president won't call speaker boehner, perhaps he will call bill clinton. i'm take the last word on that. governor as always, thank you. >> thank you. >> senator sessions demanding the fiscal cliff talks be taken out of shadows. why...
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they sat on it all through the election to make obama look bad. i know that sounds like a conspiracy theory, but you have to look at what people are doing, not what they say they are doing. host: all right. let's move on to linda from tallahassee, florida. caller: i have been very disappointed in the republicans myself, and i have been a republican for a long time. this pastime i could not even vote republican because i was so aggravated in what i felt was misinformation from them. i am in the top 5% of american wealth. we owed nobody -- we have no bills. we know plenty of baker's. we felt these people were taking advantage -- would you are in the banking business, it is a public trust issue. they do not to make these loans and they made them anyway. i said, you should not be making these loans, it is not a good loan. it made them. they are not going to jail for it. nobody on wall street is going to jail. as a republican and a christian, if we are not holding their feet to the fired to do better it acts like christians and try to come to the table
they sat on it all through the election to make obama look bad. i know that sounds like a conspiracy theory, but you have to look at what people are doing, not what they say they are doing. host: all right. let's move on to linda from tallahassee, florida. caller: i have been very disappointed in the republicans myself, and i have been a republican for a long time. this pastime i could not even vote republican because i was so aggravated in what i felt was misinformation from them. i am in the...
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and the third is that barack obama did win the presidential election. he got 51% of the vote very nearly. by some appropriate coincidence, mitt romney got 47% of the vote. the president got 332 electoral votes. he won. and all of the rest of this is the republicans playing out various stages of grief and loss. >> stephanie: yeah exactly. >> and i think it's coming right before the end of the calendar year. >> stephanie: why does the medicare eligibility age have to be on the table? it seems like a bad idea. it's an idea that paul ryan embraced. obviously nancy pelosi has said she doesn't like the idea. as you just said we won. why do we need to trade that this time? >> i don't think there is going to be any trade. there is concern about medicare's long-term fiscal health because people are living longer. and the actuarial tables are a little bit out of whack on this so it's something i think you can evaluate if it is done in a fair way, but we already agreed to $1.2 trillion of spending cuts that are now a law in july of 2011. and there was no revenue i
and the third is that barack obama did win the presidential election. he got 51% of the vote very nearly. by some appropriate coincidence, mitt romney got 47% of the vote. the president got 332 electoral votes. he won. and all of the rest of this is the republicans playing out various stages of grief and loss. >> stephanie: yeah exactly. >> and i think it's coming right before the end of the calendar year. >> stephanie: why does the medicare eligibility age have to be on the...
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but you did mention barack obama, you did mention that he's the first african-american president to be re-elected and some talk about tim scott and the president of the idea of being post-racial. are we there? >> certainly not. the idea that we're breathless of the appointment of a black american appointed. also the gubernatorial position which is the other statewide position. look, we elect presidents from a very narrow categories of people. senators, governors, and vice presidents. until we have a substantial number of people as governors, senators, and vice presidents, we're not really looking at a time when our presidency will be dramatically different. >> and until we don't have to talk about this. >> right. >> don't forget to catch melissa perry as she hosts melissa harris-perry. >>> tragedy strikes the hospital. an employee connected to the prank calls by australian djs. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible...
but you did mention barack obama, you did mention that he's the first african-american president to be re-elected and some talk about tim scott and the president of the idea of being post-racial. are we there? >> certainly not. the idea that we're breathless of the appointment of a black american appointed. also the gubernatorial position which is the other statewide position. look, we elect presidents from a very narrow categories of people. senators, governors, and vice presidents....
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even conducting a post-election survey of sorts. what do you know? >> we know that more than one million of the supporters answered it and we already know that this big obama army is working on fiscal cliff matters where they're sgogoing to be, t are mobilized to help support the president's plan to get the tax breaks in first, but we're learning history, finally. we're getting it in the first david alex raxlerod is talking he never thought that paul ryan would be the vice president pick. >> who did he think? >> he thought it would be rob portman to help in ohio or tim pawlenty. he never thought ryan because that would introduce medicare into the political conversation and distract romney from his main message of the economy. that's why he thought he never would pick him and, of course, he did, and, of course, it did change the romney mesage for a while. >> the president, molly ball, the president could be making a major decision as early as next week by making his announcement for secretary of state. secretary of state, specifically. ambassador susa
even conducting a post-election survey of sorts. what do you know? >> we know that more than one million of the supporters answered it and we already know that this big obama army is working on fiscal cliff matters where they're sgogoing to be, t are mobilized to help support the president's plan to get the tax breaks in first, but we're learning history, finally. we're getting it in the first david alex raxlerod is talking he never thought that paul ryan would be the vice president pick....
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election to a second term has emerged as a different kind of negotiator. you know the criticism regarding the democrats not to stand united as a strong fist in the past with different negotiations. are we seeing a different strategy this time around where you put it all on the table and force the republicans' hand? >> well, the difference is, tamron, we just came out a presidential election where the issues we're talking about are central to the campaign. it wasn't a secret he thought we should have a balanced approach to look at the deficit and higher income individuals need to pay more. if we don't ask, everybody else is hit harder. the president is coming off a victory, and it's very clear that on this specific issue the overwhelming majority of the american people support him. so that's a big difference. as we come to the end of this fiscal cliff, republicans have to choose. do they call for $5 trillion in tax increases over the next ten years or are they going to allow the middle class tax cuts to proceed? that's their choice, and i think people like
election to a second term has emerged as a different kind of negotiator. you know the criticism regarding the democrats not to stand united as a strong fist in the past with different negotiations. are we seeing a different strategy this time around where you put it all on the table and force the republicans' hand? >> well, the difference is, tamron, we just came out a presidential election where the issues we're talking about are central to the campaign. it wasn't a secret he thought we...
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the hand of someone who as he said in his press conference won the election. there is no compromise here. i think there is a fiscal cliff and there is a political cliff. the president has the upper hand. taxes go up in the way his base want on wealthy people and what he wants to do is say if you don't go along with me you republicans are responsible for raising taxes on the middle class and will be responsible for the recession that's almost certain to come. >> there is no serious debating over avoiding the fiscal cliff. it's a political fight. this is a democratic party that hasn't passed a budget in years. the press corps is on the same page. everyone is asking how much of your pledge will you betray? how many people press president obama and say how much entitlement reform are you putting on the table. megyn: he he's saying there is $400 billion worth of spending cuts we can discuss later if you first give me the tax hikes. what cut are they? we'll see the last budget i proposed that didn't get any democratic support in the senate. he can't get it passed by
the hand of someone who as he said in his press conference won the election. there is no compromise here. i think there is a fiscal cliff and there is a political cliff. the president has the upper hand. taxes go up in the way his base want on wealthy people and what he wants to do is say if you don't go along with me you republicans are responsible for raising taxes on the middle class and will be responsible for the recession that's almost certain to come. >> there is no serious...
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his party lost the presidential election, they failed to swin the senate, the jobs numbers continue to improve, the president is adamant he's not going to concede over raising taxes. is speaker boehner now on the wrong side of history? >> well, his entire party on a lot of issues is on the wrong side of history. we don't feel sorry for him because we're making progress economically as a nation. that's very, very important. and the issues that we are going to address with this sort of fiscal cliff, fiscal slope, hill, wharf you want to call it are going to be very, very important issues. i want to clear one things up. the republicans wants to talk about deductions all the time. one of the key distinctions between letting the taxes go up a little bit on the 2% versus trying to find this money through deductions, is the fact when we're talking about capping deductions, that's something that's going to impact middle class families and middle class earners the most. and so it really is -- i don't want to make this about class warfare. it's really about what is fiscally smart for the economy
his party lost the presidential election, they failed to swin the senate, the jobs numbers continue to improve, the president is adamant he's not going to concede over raising taxes. is speaker boehner now on the wrong side of history? >> well, his entire party on a lot of issues is on the wrong side of history. we don't feel sorry for him because we're making progress economically as a nation. that's very, very important. and the issues that we are going to address with this sort of...
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. >>> a month -- a month after being re-elected president obama's rating is up to 57%. that's the highest rating since navy s.e.a.l.s killed osama bin laden. >>> 7:35. the national football league says it would help the oakland raiders, build a new stadium. roger goodell says it is crucial that the raiders approve their stadium situation and that the nfl would help for a new one. the raiders have held talks about a new stadium but no progress has been reported. >>> changes could be coming to the nfl next year. why some want those kickoffs to be eliminated and what might replace it. >>> an 18-year-old palo alto man is in jail that injured three people. two people were hurt. one man was arrested. they suspect road rage or a dispute. >>> darnell and tanya washington are in court expected to enter murder pleas in the case of susie co. they were arrested in the seattle area. >>> joseph naso will not be tried until april. she's charged with -- he's charged with killing four people. the 78-year-old was originally scheduled to go to trial but it was rescheduled for january when
. >>> a month -- a month after being re-elected president obama's rating is up to 57%. that's the highest rating since navy s.e.a.l.s killed osama bin laden. >>> 7:35. the national football league says it would help the oakland raiders, build a new stadium. roger goodell says it is crucial that the raiders approve their stadium situation and that the nfl would help for a new one. the raiders have held talks about a new stadium but no progress has been reported. >>>...
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this will be their first face-to-face meeting since the election on nov. 6. in his victory speech the president promised to engage with the massachusetts governor and consider his ideas. also there are some lucky folks today who struck it really big. two tickets won in arizona and another in missouri, winning national power ball numbers that were drawn last night, you can check tickets anyway, the numbers are 5, 16, 22, 23, 29 and power ball fix, the prize, $579,900,000 which would have given you $379,800,000 if you took the cash option and those are your headlines. back to cheryl casone me who i assume did not win. did you play? cheryl: look at me on twitter at cheryl casone and you can see my ticket in the garbage. thank you very much. it may be illegal to smoke pot in colorado and washington state but employers can still fire you for doing so. dan springer is standing by in seattle with more. >> what a buzz hill. pot smokers in washington state and colorado are in for a rude awakening. they can smoke legally in their homes but get fired if they failed drug
this will be their first face-to-face meeting since the election on nov. 6. in his victory speech the president promised to engage with the massachusetts governor and consider his ideas. also there are some lucky folks today who struck it really big. two tickets won in arizona and another in missouri, winning national power ball numbers that were drawn last night, you can check tickets anyway, the numbers are 5, 16, 22, 23, 29 and power ball fix, the prize, $579,900,000 which would have given...
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re-election. has been running millions of dollars worth of advertisements claiming that mitt romney's plans will raise taxes on middle class americans. this isn't true. romney promises precisely the opposite. in factcheck.org has called out democrats for repeated -- repeatedly debunked the charge. to paraphrase president clinton's d.n.c., it takes a lot of brass for criticizing someone for doing something you've done yourself. so before we get into the last punch line, let's go back to videotape. online it had a video that could be punched. it was president barack obama speaking. part of his quote says, i can make a firm pledge under my plan no family making less than $250,000 will see any form of tax increase. not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains tax. not any of your taxes. the article goes on. this man's firm pledges aren't worth too much, are they? it's worth -- if only to marvel at the sheer hypocrisy. congressional budget office determined that millions of america
re-election. has been running millions of dollars worth of advertisements claiming that mitt romney's plans will raise taxes on middle class americans. this isn't true. romney promises precisely the opposite. in factcheck.org has called out democrats for repeated -- repeatedly debunked the charge. to paraphrase president clinton's d.n.c., it takes a lot of brass for criticizing someone for doing something you've done yourself. so before we get into the last punch line, let's go back to...
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to bail out her cash-strapped city for payback for their votes. >> after the election of jimmy carter, he went to washington, d.c., he came back with some bacon. that's what you do. our people in an overwhelming way supported the reelection of this president and there ought to be a quid pro quo and you ought to exercise leadership -- of course not just that, but why not. martha: you have got to bring home the bacon according to that councilwoman. many cities and state are in the same situation. will they make the same request of the president and washington? stuart, what do you think about that piece of tape there? >> finally it has been said in public. the detroit city councilmember saying publicly we deserve a bailout. detroi indeed vote overwhelmingly for president obama. 73% of the vote went for president obama. detroit will probably run out of money within days. the word bankruptcy is being applied to the city of detroit. she says there ought to be a quid pro quo, why not. she is publicly calling for what amounts to a federal bailout. it would be called help for the city, help fo
to bail out her cash-strapped city for payback for their votes. >> after the election of jimmy carter, he went to washington, d.c., he came back with some bacon. that's what you do. our people in an overwhelming way supported the reelection of this president and there ought to be a quid pro quo and you ought to exercise leadership -- of course not just that, but why not. martha: you have got to bring home the bacon according to that councilwoman. many cities and state are in the same...
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everyone else in the system has an election and obama doesn't. so as his capital goes down and his vision gets wider, historically everyone else is getting narrower to that -- it not even to election day in '14 but to primary day. >> with all that said, lee, you look at the deal, as michael said, the president came out big. not only does he want taxes to go up on the wealthy but stimulus spending, the power to raise the debt ceiling. where is the middle ground? who blinks on these questions of taxes? >> everyone is doubling down and waiting for the other side to blink first. that's why we'll push this. this could be all choreographed. we don't know what's happening with the side conversations. both sides will probably give. everyone knows that will be the case. the president has a lot of leverage. he, of course, doesn't have absolute leverage but has more than he had. learned a lesson in 2001. he's coming out of the gate with strong rhetoric. >> michael? >> if you took grover out of the equation and lowered the flame, how long do you think it wou
everyone else in the system has an election and obama doesn't. so as his capital goes down and his vision gets wider, historically everyone else is getting narrower to that -- it not even to election day in '14 but to primary day. >> with all that said, lee, you look at the deal, as michael said, the president came out big. not only does he want taxes to go up on the wealthy but stimulus spending, the power to raise the debt ceiling. where is the middle ground? who blinks on these...
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now, the president vowed during his re-election campaign that we would not reach that point but we're -- but we're certainly getting closer. we just learned the president is rejecting the latest counteroffer from republicans. democrats believe they can force republicans to vote on tax increases. house minority leader, nancy pelosi, could be filing the necessary paperwork in a couple of hours. reporting live from washington, d.c., alison burns, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 7:15. right now, president obama is meeting with a bipartisan group of governors at the white house. reportedly, the governor has requested the meeting with the president. they want to urge president obama to work with congress on a solution to the fiscal cliff. in the afternoon, the same group of governors will meet with john boehner. california governor jerry brown is not among the group. >>> 7:15. the owner of the drake's bay oyster company is plotting a legal response to the federal decision to shut down his operation. he said he will not give up. the operating permit expired last month at the national seashore. the
now, the president vowed during his re-election campaign that we would not reach that point but we're -- but we're certainly getting closer. we just learned the president is rejecting the latest counteroffer from republicans. democrats believe they can force republicans to vote on tax increases. house minority leader, nancy pelosi, could be filing the necessary paperwork in a couple of hours. reporting live from washington, d.c., alison burns, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 7:15. right now,...
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it's their first meeting since the election. and this his victory speech, obama promised to engage with romney and consider his ideas. >> a lot of people didn't think the lunch would ever happen. >> interesting if he's going to be talking about ideas, mitt romney's idea had been to reach some sort of a cap on it 00 mem deductions. >> he would have just extended the bush tax cuts and then the other stuff would have been -- but if romney had been elected, whether bad long term to extend them, that's one thing, but he would have extended -- this is a weird argument to be having to have everything hinging on on the 2% that are -- suddenly as i've said before, suddenly everybody loves the bush tax cuts. so weird. >> flips the tables on who likes what. >> it all goes back to the line in the band. obama first time around caved and his base never for gave him for extending the bush tax cuts when he said he wouldn't. >> maybe the republicans should be reconsidering the tough line that they drew back in july of 2011 because this is a situ
it's their first meeting since the election. and this his victory speech, obama promised to engage with romney and consider his ideas. >> a lot of people didn't think the lunch would ever happen. >> interesting if he's going to be talking about ideas, mitt romney's idea had been to reach some sort of a cap on it 00 mem deductions. >> he would have just extended the bush tax cuts and then the other stuff would have been -- but if romney had been elected, whether bad long term...
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president obama. pongyang has been banned from conducting these long-range missile tests by the u.n. and by the united states and that is another reason they want to test it. there are reasons against it. there are some logistical reasons. launching in december is difficult. again i'm told this could be a go. back to you. martha: going to get the attention of a lot of people with that for sure. that may be part of the motivation. greg, thank you very much. bill: 10 minutes past the hour and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said to have laughed out loud at the plan the white house brought to the hill yesterday. so today the president takes his plan to avert the fiscal cliff straight to the voters. with we'll talk about that. melissa: what's happened right now is the republicans are surrounded by the news media and democrats who are creating an artificial standard, basically saying if you don't sell out on taxes you're bad people. bill: so what's up with that we wonder? fair and balanced debate. g
president obama. pongyang has been banned from conducting these long-range missile tests by the u.n. and by the united states and that is another reason they want to test it. there are reasons against it. there are some logistical reasons. launching in december is difficult. again i'm told this could be a go. back to you. martha: going to get the attention of a lot of people with that for sure. that may be part of the motivation. greg, thank you very much. bill: 10 minutes past the hour and...
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>> so obama created this whole fiscal cliff for an election issue. the amazing thing is no one talked about this during the campaign. it was the day after the election that suddenly d.c. and the d.c. press was abuzz about the fiscal cliff. this wasn't a campaign issue. no one even talked about it. >> stephanie: right. >> the idea that this is all obama's fault. it has nothing to do with the $3 trillion war paid for with taxes. >> stephanie: eric boehlert remains in the sidecar. we continue with right-wing world next on "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: it's really weird but it's also the coolest thing i've ever heard in my whole life. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. ♪ here she come now say mony mony ♪ >> stephanie: oh you didn't put in the other part. okay. >> i like our s.e.c. license. >> stephanie: 1-800-steph-12 the
>> so obama created this whole fiscal cliff for an election issue. the amazing thing is no one talked about this during the campaign. it was the day after the election that suddenly d.c. and the d.c. press was abuzz about the fiscal cliff. this wasn't a campaign issue. no one even talked about it. >> stephanie: right. >> the idea that this is all obama's fault. it has nothing to do with the $3 trillion war paid for with taxes. >> stephanie: eric boehlert remains in the...
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in his first interview since the election, president obama reiterated his demand that any deal has to raise taxes on the highest earners. but yesterday the president also appeared to show a little bit of flexibility in lowering those tax rates in the future. take a listen to what he said. >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgment that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms and entitlements that i'm prepared to make, that we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal -- what i've suggested is, let's essentially put a down payment on taxes. let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on tax reform. we look at what loopholes and deductions both democrats and republicans are willing to close. and it's possible that we may be able to l
in his first interview since the election, president obama reiterated his demand that any deal has to raise taxes on the highest earners. but yesterday the president also appeared to show a little bit of flexibility in lowering those tax rates in the future. take a listen to what he said. >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgment that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance...
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. >> before the election you were asked whether if obama won taxes would have to go up. i are acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election i came here and made it clear that the republicans would put revenue on the table as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> my question is, what message do you have for people who look at the negotiating position and believe it's inevitable you'll have to accept some compromise on tax. >> revenue is on the table. but revenue was only on the table if there was a serious spending cut as part of this agreement. it has to be part of the agreement. we have a debt crisis. we are spending too much. and while we are willing to put revenue on the table, we have to recognize is the spending that's out of control. >> roughly what size spending cuts do you think it would take to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff? do you think that at least the promise of spending cuts has to be included in this level deal at this time? >> i don't think there's -- it's productive for either side to lay out hard lines in terms of
. >> before the election you were asked whether if obama won taxes would have to go up. i are acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election i came here and made it clear that the republicans would put revenue on the table as a way to begin to move the process to get this resolved. >> my question is, what message do you have for people who look at the negotiating position and believe it's inevitable you'll have to accept some compromise on tax. >> revenue is...